MINUTES
OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWN OF ELLICOTT PLANNING BOARD HELD AT THE
ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 215 SOUTH WORK STREET, FALCONER, NY 14733 ON JANUARY
10, 2007 AT 7:00 P.M.
PRESENT: Chairman Dan Evans, Gary Swanson,
Ron Calanni, Dave Carlberg, Paul Shanahan, Robert Thomas, Attorney William
Wright, Code Enforcement Office Randy Woodbury
ABSENT: Phyllis Belin
Chairman Evans opened the meeting at 7:00 PM.
Motion made by Dave Carlberg, seconded by Gary Swanson
to approve the minutes of the December 13, 2006 meeting.
Carried. Ayes
- 6
Noes - 0
Absent - 1
Kevin Petru presented plans for a modification of Starbucks
Coffee Companys site plan for 944 Fairmount Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY that
was approved in October 2006. When the
corporate office reviewed the plans they suggested some modifications.
They are requesting:
1)
changes
in the elevation of the site they tried to make the grade more consistent
with what was originally proposed and approved by the Planning Board they
lowered the site on average by about a foot and brought the driveway slope onto
the property with a grade of about 7.5% where it was originally 6.6% - they changed
the orientation of the storm water system to keep the water away from the
retaining wall it still has the same surface area and volume as was
originally planned
2)
the
design of the retaining wall the corner of the wall was rounded off to
improve the construction of the wall the wall will be more stable if it is
not mitered it will be finger locked it will look better aesthetically
the surface area of the wall will be reduced
3)
a
minor change in the landscaping Mr. Petru explained on the original plan the
patio in front of the store showed a decorative finish to the pavement stones
that went all the way to the curb they added some planting because the
corporate standard is to allow plantings between the outside radius of the curb
and the actual patio - the patio was
cut back a little and it will be a positive with the extra plantings
They feel the changes will improve the site plan in
a number of ways including snow stacking to improving the retaining wall. They will enhance the ingress and egress by
making the grade smoother for vehicles entering and exiting the site.
Jeffrey Skurka and Bob Runge, RJR Engineering, reviewed the changes with
the Planning Board. A letter dated December 19, 2006 was submitted to the Town
certifying the storm water management plan was unchanged.
Discussion followed on the change in grading and the
retaining wall. There will be no change in the lighting. Attorney Wright asked about the fence. Mr. Skurka said he had extended the wall and
the fence all the way to the existing fence. He was not aware that area was
going to be used for snow storage so he pulled the wall back to almost where is
had been proposed in the original design and made the fence so no one would
step off the wall. The grade was changed to be a 1 on 3 slope other then a 1 on
1.75 to a 1.2.
Phyllis Belin entered the meeting at 7:10 PM.
Attorney Wright reviewed the changes that were
presented and asked if there were any other changes. The Board would not have
to go through the entire checklist if the applicant can describe exactly what
the changes are.
Changes would included:
1)
the
wall and fence
2)
the
elevations and drainage
3)
the
minor change in landscaping
Mr. Petru said there would not be any changes in the
lighting, the outdoor buildings or signage. The Board had discussed all of the
changes.
This application is for a modification to the
original Site Plan. The Board reviewed
the original EAF and determined the changes would not cause any changes to the
environmental review the Board had previously done. The Board reviewed the EAF
done on October 11, 2006 and determined the modifications would not change
their findings.
Motion made by Gary Swanson, seconded by Bob Thomas
making the determination there is no change in the environmental impacts.
Carried. Ayes 7 Noes 0 Absent 0
Motion made by Dave Carlberg, seconded Ron Calanni
to approve the modification to the approved Site Plan for Starbucks Coffee
Company, 944 Fairmount Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY.
Carried. Ayes 7 Noes 0
Absent 0
Chairman Evans signed and dated three sets of Site
Plans showing the modifications.
Code Enforcement Officer Randy Woodbury told the
Board about a grant the Town was working on for a scanner so plans could
be scanned and also make them available on the web site.
Jerry Erickson, PE, presented a modification for
the approved Site Plan for Thomas Shelters on property at 2553 South Work
Street, Falconer, NY. He presented the
original plan approved in 2002 and a plan for the modifications.
Mr. Erickson reviewed the plans with the Board
explaining:
1)
the
buildings are a little different size the total facilities to rent are almost
identical
2)
everything
on the original plans has been built except the one unit
3)
they
would like to add an office at the end of one of the storage buildings
4)
Mr.
Shelters would be adding a septic system and a well
5)
this
soil absorbs more water then anticipated the pond could be made larger now or
later if needed
Dan Evans stated the water calculations were done
based on a larger detention pond. He asked if the site had changed so much that
the pond could be downsized and asked Mr. Erickson if he had the calculations
and topals to attest to that.
Mr. Erickson told the Board he had provided a letter
that stated the existing pond is adequate.
All water on site is kept on site and is going into the pond. Mr. Erickson said that the pond is 30% of
the original size. They could make the
pond a little wider or longer or they could put some underground pipes in the
area that has not been developed yet to increase the storage capacity. Mr. Erickson said he has never seen the pond
more then a third full.
Randy said the neighbors were relatively happy. It has improved the water drainage onto
their property. He said the County kept a close eye on it because they were skeptical
but Mr. Spanos, Director of the County Department of Public Facilities, was
happy with it. Randy said that putting storage underground would give him the
ability to do more on the surface if he wanted to expand.
Mr. Shelters is requesting to sell used cars on this
property. He is also asking not to
build the complete perimeter fence. Randy said Mr. Shelters has a use by
right to sell the used cars but needs to include it on the site plan. Randy said he was not comfortable with an
extension of the pond that Mr. Erickson suggested. He would like as much area to drive around the buildings as
possible. Randy said that the outdoor
storage of vehicles was not clear in the first site plan approval. The area was
approved for the pond.
Paul Shanahan said it bothers him that the pond was
not built to the original specifications.
He asked Randy if the pond could handle the water when the paving is
done. Randy said based on Mr.
Ericksons calculations and the surprising percolation of the sub-soil (that
was unknown at the time of the first site plan review) it will be able to
handle it. He had concerns that Mr.
Shelters might use the area approved for a pond for commercial storage.
Randy said he did not feel the perimeter fence
should be waived. Mr. Shelters said he
put the fence on the plan as a possibility for the future, but now does not
want to put the fence up because he does not have any problems. Paul asked if it was stipulated that he
needed the fence in order to do outdoor storage. Attorney Wright said the minutes said if there were any outdoor
storage the fence would be a condition of the approval. Mr. Shelters stated
that he could do away with the outdoor storage.
Mr. Erickson stated that the paved area had not
changed, the DIs or drainage had not changed, the privacy fence is up, and the
access and egress onto South Work Street was the same.
Mr. Shelters told the Board he would defiantly be
blacktopping more this summer. He will not be doing any repair of vehicles on
the site but may wash cars on the site.
Randy said there is a provision in the code for a
second opinion for the pond. Attorney Wright said the Board needs a first
opinion from Mr. Erickson with storm water calculations. Mr. Evans said he would like to see topals
for the site. Mr. Wright suggested the Board asked for a modified plan on a
one-sheet document that complies with the site plan checklist. The Board wants
a comparison of the completely pre-developed site, not at interim, to the
completely paved site. The other option would be for Mr. Shelters to build it
to the original approved plan.
There were no other questions from the Board and Mr.
Erickson said there was no problem providing what the Board requested.
The Town received e-mail from Thomas and Donna Becker,
neighbors on South Work St., Ext., Falconer, NY, stating they had concerns
with:
1)
the
fence need of a fence and a locked gate
2)
more
units were built before the fence was finished and a locked gate put in
3)
semi-trucks
parking there and running for hours during the early morning hours
Gary Swanson asked if Mr. Shelters had considered a
locked gate. Mr. Erickson said if there
is a perimeter fence and a locked gate there would be hours of operation. Discussion followed on the fence. The Board agreed that if there is any
outdoor storage Mr. Shelters would need a perimeter fence that is totally
secure. If he does not have any outdoor storage the Board would waive the
perimeter fence.
Motion made by Paul Shanahan, seconded by Ron
Calanni to table this application for Tom Shelters pending further information.
Carried. Ayes 7 Noes 0 Absent 0
Randy Woodbury informed the Board about a possible
lot for sale on Howard and Royal Oaks.
The person that wants to buy the lot lives in Lakewood and wants to
plant pine trees and stack firewood.
Randy explained to him that he could not have an accessory building
without a residence. It is in a residential
zone and he wants to store his wood there.
Attorney Wright said that would be an accessory use
under the Town of Ellicott code and the Board agreed it was not feasible.
Motion made by Dave Carlberg, seconded Gary Swanson
to adjourn at 8:15 PM.
Carried. Ayes 7 Noes 0 Absent 0
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Valerie Pierce, Secretary