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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWN OF ELLICOTT
PLANNING BOARD HELD AT THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 215 SOUTH WORK STREET,
FALCONER, NY 14733 ON MAY 12, 2010 AT 7:00 P.M.
PRESENT: Chairman
ABSENT: Gary
Swanson
Chairman Evans opened the meeting at 7:00 PM.
Motion made by Ronald Calanni,
seconded by Fred Santucci to approve the minutes of the last meeting, April=
7,
2010.
Carr=
ied. &=
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- 6 &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; Noes- =
span>0 &=
nbsp; Ab=
sent- 1
Chairman Evans opened with a
proposal to restrict the number of dogs that an owner may have without a
special permit as defined under a kennel code.
Brooke Colley, 50 Babcock Av.:=
Concerned because she has four dogs and wants to know why we need mo=
re
rules.
Chairman Evans: Falconer has an ordina=
nce
for no more than 3 dogs, Celoron has ordinance for no more than 5 or more d=
ogs
or cats for six months or older without kennel license.
Atty. Wright: The Town Board has ask=
ed the
Planning Board to make a recommendation as to whether or not the term kennel
should be defined in the code, under Sec. 146.15 Special Permit Uses in the=
Ag.
Res. district.&=
nbsp;
The Code states you can have a kennel by Special Use Permit. There is no definition of what a k=
ennel
is.
Chairman Evans: There are two villages
within the Town and we should abide by what they are doing right now. We should go with the max of four =
(4
dogs). Five (5) would enact a
kennel license. This pertains=
to
sheltering or boarding dogs. =
Paul Shanahan: Hasn’t talked to=
one
person who is in favor of having a limit on dogs without kennel license.
Roger Loe=
wenheim,
Atty. Wright: This has nothing to do=
with
a kennel license; it is about obtaining a Special Use Permit. It has nothing to do with
licensing.
Randy Woodbury: Appearance fee for no=
n-commercial
Special Use Permit is $75 for the first appearance for residential
non-commercial. It could be d=
one
for less and for a period of up to ten (10) years. Commercial is $200 for initial, re=
new is
$75.
Brooke Colley: She feels the dog ordi=
nance
is complete and gives the town all the tools they need to take care of the =
dogs
and problems.
Randy Woodbury: The Zoning Board analy=
zes
these case by case and does an excellent job of doing this. Without the Special Use Permit, th=
ere
would be no process for someone with a large number of dogs to allow them to
have that number of dogs because it is not a customary number of dogs. They have a little more protection=
with
the Special Use Permit and it grants them extra rights. It gives them a process.
<=
span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Atty=
Wri=
ght: The Special Use Permit=
is
for the protection of the neighbors and for demonstrating that the use is no
more offensive to neighbors by reason of noise, fumes, vibrations, or whate=
ver. If she can keep 10 dogs in her hom=
e and
care for them properly under Ag and Markets Law and pass the inspection of =
the
Zoning Board of Appeals she could have 10 dogs.
Motion made by Dan Evans for a
description of a kennel to be added to the Town Code, seconded by Fred
Santucci.: Any premise on whi=
ch 5
or more dogs over six months of age are housed, groomed, boarded or trained
would constitute a kennel.
Rejected. =
&nb=
sp;
Ayes - 3 &nb=
sp; =
Noes - 3 =
&nb=
sp;
Absent - 1
Chairman Evans opened discussi=
on
on the expansion of the industrial zone on the property of
David Rhi=
nehart: SKF is looking to expand.
Within the Town footprint, will be a research and development buildi=
ng
and a storm water detention facility for the entire development. One developer for the entire
project. The detention proper=
ty is
owned by SKF. There will be a=
lease
agreement between the developer and SKF.&n=
bsp;
An explanation of the
Site Plan was given. Parking =
for
the new building will be in the existing SKF parking lot. There will be fencing and gates. There will be planting for screeni=
ng and
minimal lighting for security.
R. Drake: The parking for the heat treat building will be using existing SKF l=
ot
so they will not be using
D. Rhineh=
art: Storm water design is=
being
done by a company in
R. Drake: The block walls will be
insulated for noise reduction. Roof
R- 30. Nothing near the resid=
ents
will generate noise in the production facility. The production will be about=
450
feet away from closest residents.
The new building will be a block for noise from the existing
building. They have done every
thing they can to address production noise.
Frank Lam=
arca,
D. Rhineh=
art: The modifications of t=
he
plan have removed the need for the requested rezoning, but they are still
leaving the rezoning issue on the table.&n=
bsp;
They still would like the property that they now own to be zoned
commercial. No doors will be =
on the
North facing towards Elmwood.
R. Drake: The parking has been m=
oved
so the rezoning is not necessary for the Site Plan approval. May 19th Habiterra
will be going before the Village for Use Variance. Habiterra will
be working with the Falconer Fire Dept. to insure proper fire hydrants &=
; 20
ft hard surface around the building.
Full Site Plan presented to Ellicott on June 9, 2010. SEQR will be complete. Heat Treat building is scheduled t=
o be
enclosed by Nov. 3. Equipment
arrives at that date. Coordin=
ating
with IDA and County Planning. The
County has preliminary drawings done early on. No opposition to rezoning as long =
as it
doesn’t hold project up.
R. Woodbury: He will need to submit=
plans
to County because of the 500 feet of Village /Town border. A fence higher than 6 feet would r=
equire
an Area Variance (the chain link will be 6’ and barbed wire will make=
it
higher). They may want to pur=
sue
rezoning. Special conditions =
may be
desirable and could be applied. The
residents may want to do this. The
building is 20 feet from the residential/industrial zone and they are requi=
red
to have a 10’ buffer between the building and a hard surface. Without rezoning, a Special Use Pe=
rmit
may be needed since fence is in residential area for industrial use if not
rezoned. D. Rhineh=
art: The buffer is in
residential. It was understoo=
d that
the driveway could go to the zoning line. Atty. Wright: Inquired as to why the fence was set on neighbor’s line and no=
t on
the zoning line. D. Rhineh=
art: As we understand it, t=
he
insurance company that governs SKF said they want their property protected =
to
the property line. The fence =
is in
line with current facility. T=
here
are certain government restrictions since they make bearings for the
government. Chair Evans opened discussion =
of
Heritage Ministries development, D. Smeltzer: Pres=
enting
first phase of planning process for construction of six assisted liv=
ing
units and combination of skilled nursing facilities. 12 residents each. Also, some potential independent l=
iving
units at a future date. They =
would
be approximately 8,000 sq ft each and at present are proposing only 3. Each unit would contain residences=
for
12 people in private rooms with a shared living, dining and kitchen area. The people residing there would be
served meals and taken care of in those units. There would be very few, if any
commercial activities involved in the process. Their goal is to make everything as
residential as possible for long term and senior care. This is phase one which includes 3
residences of the total 6 approved by the Zoning Board for Use Variance.
D. Sennett: 2008 Special Use Permi=
t for
layout at that time. Since th=
at
time the area of development has been greatly reduced, due to the location =
of
Federal wet lands. Some are u=
nder
review by the Court for exclusion because of their quality and not being
connected to water of the
Sewer
line will cut through one wet land; the wet land is not being considered for
removal from the delineation at this time.=
They will have to get a permit from the Army Corps of Engineers to c=
ut
through the wet land. The oth=
er two
wet land areas are currently under scrutiny by the Court. If they are determined to be high
quality wet lands, they will have to reroute the sewer. At this time, they are confident t=
hat
they will go away. At this ti=
me,
this is the only utility going to
The =
road
is a private drive, approximately 20 ft. wide paved surface. Side ditches, normal crown. Storm water on site is a combinati=
on of
open ditches and closed piping.
There
are two water systems one along
Gas
service will be off of SW Dr., electric off of SW Dr. Southwestern is Nationalgrid,
Park=
ing. It’s a residential zone. No requirement for number of parki=
ng
stalls because it is a non-commercial site. They are at this point proposing 3
stalls for guest parking per building.&nbs=
p;
3 spaces in front of the building, there is a garage door for
storage. Those three spaces a=
re for
employees. If more needed, th=
ey can
be expanded. Accessible handi=
capped
space in front of every building. =
span>
The
buildings are going to be the same.
A nurse will visit one or two of the buildings during the day. Minimum amount of grading will be
done. The buildings will be 1=
50
feet away from the south property line and 200 feet away from the north
property line. A buffer of th=
e pond
and wet land will be on the two sides.&nbs=
p;
It was a restriction of the permit that the buildings be 100 feet aw=
ay
from the other residents.
Entr=
ance
detail. It’s a resident=
ial
entrance with 27 cars for employees and a maximum of 50 cars per day is
expected. This is a very high
estimate.
The
overall dimensions of the building are 126’ x 105’. The area in the rear will be a pat=
io
with walkways and extensive plantings around the building. The actual number and location of =
plants
hasn’t been determined as yet.
The majority will be a residential look.
They
will be developing about 7 acres at this time.
Roger Low=
enheim: Inquired about taxes, =
water
pressure (will the water pressure be affected on SW Dr.) and the estimated =
50
vehicles per day. He feels th=
at is
a lot of traffic with the school buses.&nb=
sp;
Also, traffic speeds down SW Dr and doesn’t slow down until
needing to stop at intersection.
D. Smeltzer: Water pressure will be
reviewed by the BPU. He highly
doubts that there will be 50 cars, only the workers and a few visitors. This is not a nursing home; it is
assisted living so there are much fewer visitors.
R. Lowenh=
eim: Is a left turn off of =
SW Dr.
into there. He feels there is=
a
traffic problem coming down the hill.
D. Smeltzer: This will be submitted=
to
the County and they will look at all of this. There are numerous driveways. There is a cemetery across the
street.
Carl Scar=
pino,
Kathy Johnston,
D. Smeltzer: They have not worked o=
ut the
details for lighting. Because=
it is
of residential nature it would be very similar to someone’s home. There may be down lighting around =
the
building. No desire to =
put in
more lighting than needed to keep people safe. There are no large deliveries
expected. The laundry will be=
done
in house. The residents will =
be
permitted to have vehicles. These facilities will be licensed as Assisted
Living and Assisted Living Program which means they can have a higher level=
of
care than is allowed at
Dawn Calamari,
D. Smeltzer: Construction may star=
t late
summer or early fall and would extend into spring of 2011 with occupancy th=
at
summer. If there is a demand =
for
the duplexes they will come back in with more plans. If more assisted living is needed =
that
may be the next phase. Future
growth will depend on financial feasibility studies, and as to who wants wh=
at
type of unit. Future growth on
assisted living facilities depends upon receiving a $5,000,000.00 grant from
the State. There is no capitol
reimbursement on assisted living units.&nb=
sp;
These
are exactly the same buildings for skilled nursing care as for assisted
living. All will be one floor=
, and
a little under 8,000 sq feet, counting the garage.
D. Sennett: They have a Special Us= e Permit which specifies a certain number of buildings and they can not exceed that without more requests and Permits. It was based on not having as many wet lands. Each new phase has to come before = the Board. The retention pond is = about 40-50 feet from the line. The actual wet pond is 50 feet. <= o:p>
C. Scarpi=
no: Is this going to be a
secured building where alarms go off if someone leaves the building?
D. Smeltzer: Not audible, not that =
you
would hear.
C. Scarpi=
no: If residents do not h=
ave
vehicles, how do they get to appointments?
D. Smeltzer: They will provide
transportation (at no charge) to appts., grocery
store, banks, and church etc. There
will be a van providing transportation two to three times per day. They try to group them for cost ef=
fectiveness.
Atty. Wright: They filed a short fo=
rm
SEQR.
D. Evans: For the acreage they h=
ave
they need long form SEQR.
Atty. Wright: Questioned why this
isn’t a Type I action for SEQR.
Disturbance of 10 or more acres is a Type I action. Ultimately this is over 10 acres.<=
span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> They should look at the whole proj=
ect
for the environmental. Then d=
o in
phases.
D. Sennett: The phases in the full=
build
out need to come back for review because of current regulation.
Atty. Wright: This Planning Board ca=
n not
approve the environmental for this site without considering all of the
environmental for the current and accumulative effects of what may be
there.
D. Evans: We need to see whole p=
roject
and accept phases of it.
Atty. Wright: If you establish param=
eters
and then build within, the Board needs to approve the whole and then you wo=
uld
come before us for each phase. We
need to identify some of the issues that need to be addressed and get some
additional clarifications. We=
need
a long form EAF. Need lightin=
g plan
and planting schedule for check list.
Site distances on driveway.
D. Smeltzer should get photos.
Randy has to compare this plan for consistency with what the Zoning
Board of Appeals looked at and approved a couple of years ago. They were re-dated or reapproved a
couple of months ago. Flow ca=
pacity
of ditch on
D. Smeltzer: The flow rate has been greatly reduced.
R. Woodbury: Storm water quality and quantity post development can actually be better than pre-development. The regulations being drafted now = are going to be more restrictive. Phase II can be more restrictive. <= o:p>
D. Sennett: That is why as they pr=
oceed
through the project that the first SEQR may not hold up. A set of plans will be left with R=
andy
for the County referral. The
problem lies with the Engineers report dealing with things in the future. He would rather concentrate on
today’s development.
R. Woodbury: Regarding parking in f=
ront
of garage doors, they may need their architects to look at that since the
garage is planned on emergency use.
The employees parking in front of them may be a problem for Code.
Motion by Steven Peterson,
seconded by Fred Santucci to adjourn until next month pending new
information.
Carried. &n=
bsp;  =
; Ayes
– 6 &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; Noes – 0 &=
nbsp; &nbs=
p; Absent
– 1
Dan Evans opened discussion on=
re-opening
restaurant by Abigail Martinez in the Colony Motel, 620 Fairmount Av,
Paul Potter, engineer: The
restaurant was last open sometime in the 1980’s. The kitchen doesn’t meet cur=
rent
standards. They have contacte=
d the
County Health Dept. The only
project for the outside is to put up a sign on the bottom of the motel sign=
and
on the side of the building. =
R. Woodbury: The zoning is Neighbor=
hood
Business.
Mike Castiglione, 30
R. Woodbury: If they are just moving
dirt, there isn’t a process.
He needs to know what they are doing. He will talk to the owner and
owner’s atty. tomorrow to find out what they are doing and how it fits
into the process. It is not p=
art of
this project of re-opening the restaurant.=
Paul Potter: The same seating will =
be
used. It will hold 36 people
max.
Atty. Wright: The motel exists ther=
e as
prior non-conforming use, it can be used as nothing but a motel. A prior non-conforming use can not=
be
modified which changes it’s character of use, even if it puts somethi=
ng
back that was there years ago.
R. Woodbury: There has to be a proc=
ess to
legitimize the motel being there through Use Variance. This would have to go before the Z=
oning
Board of Appeals before going before the Planning Board. He will deal with Atty. VanEvery in obtaining needed information. He warned Ms. Martinez not to do
anything because she is at risk.
D. Evans: Ms. Martinez would run=
the
restaurant and lease from the motel owners.
Atty. Wright: Adding the restaurant =
in an
existing building alters the use of the building as there will be an increa=
se
in traffic. He will research
getting non-compliant to more compliant.
Motion to Table until next mon=
th
by Fred Santucci, seconded by Paul Shanahan.
Carried. &n=
bsp; Ayes
– 6 &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; Noes – 0 &=
nbsp; &nbs=
p; Absent
– 1
Chairman Evans reopened the
discussion on rezoning of SKF property, Harmon Av, Falconer.
Atty. Wright: You =
can
rezone property and you can restrict property that is rezoned. You would have to make that it=
s own
zoning district or add on to zoning district and put a restriction on that
particular part. Didn’t
answer why you would run a fence 50 ft. away from the building and circle t=
rees
making it 1 ½ feet away from the neighbors property lines rather than
putting the fence in next to the driveway on the zoning line and have 30 fe=
et
of green space. If the fence =
is the
line of defense, he feels it would be better served if the fence could be
seen. A variance is needed fo=
r the
height. A fence like that has=
not
been allowed on non-industrial property prior.
R. Woodbury: Reminded the Board tha=
t was
for security reasons. If the =
fence
is enclosing an industry, it’s an industrial fence. Its intention is to secure the
industry. Without some other
process, it has to be industrial zoned.&nb=
sp;
Suggested a Use Variance.
D. Evans: Doesn’t feel rez=
oning
is a problem as long as stipulations of restrictions on parking and future
use. Using it as plans presen=
ted
before this Board.
Atty. Wright: Remember that zoning is
forever. The building is temp=
orary
and zoning is supposed to be permanent.&nb=
sp;
The restriction would have to be written personal property between A=
, B,
C etc. may only be used for fencing, buffering trees or undeveloped buffer
area.
R. Woodbury: In Zone 4 there are
additional zone specific bulk regulations.=
In Zone 4 no permanent improvement should be placed closer than
150’ to the westerly boundary of said zone and no road ways or access
routes shall allow any egress from Willard St. Ext. That is the type for one specific
restriction for a geographic area of a zone.
R. Woodbury: The Zoning Board can s=
et
their own restrictions.
Motion by Paul Shanahan, secon=
ded
by Phyllis Belin to recommend to the Town Board to extend the industrial zo=
ne
approximately 50 feet to the east line of residents property on Harmon Av.<=
span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> Restrict use for vegetative buffer=
ing
and other green space and precluding all structures and pavement.
Carried. &n=
bsp; Ayes
– 6 &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; Noes – 0 &=
nbsp; &nbs=
p; Absent
- 1
Atty. Wright will write that f=
or
the Town Board with R. Woodbury’s assistance.
Motion to adjourn by Steve
Peterson seconded by Phyllis. &=
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PM
Carried. =
&nb=
sp;
Ayes – 6 =
Noes – 0 &nb=
sp; Absent
– 1
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p;
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(5/12/2010)
– Regular Planning Board Minutes cont.