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MINUTES
OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWN OF ELLICOTT PLANNING BOARD HELD AT THE
ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 215 SOUTH WORK STREET, FALCONER, NY 14733 ON JUNE =
10,
2009 AT 7:00 P.M.
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Chairman Dan Evans, Ga=
ry Swanson,
Ron Calanni, Phyllis Belin, Paul Shanahan, Steve =
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Peterson, Fred Santucci, Attorney
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Woodbury and Secretary Valerie Pierce
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Chairman Evans opened the meeting at 7:00 PM.
Motion made by Ron Calanni, seconded by Gary Swa=
nson
to approve the minutes of the February 11, 2009 meeting.
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Ayes – 7 =
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Chairman Evans opened the Public Hearing for Todd
Saracki (Carlton Homes, LLC) for a site plan and sub-division approval to
construct single family patio homes off
Todd Saracki reminded the Board he =
had
come in approximately 1 ½ years ago and since October of 2007 he
purchased the land to create a patio home sub-division. Mr. Saracki:
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provided a brochure on the patio homes
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hired Abate Engineering to do a prelimina=
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plot plan
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will be doing the entire project at once =
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will not phase the project
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has contacted the Highway Superintendent =
and
he is well aware of what is happening
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wants by August 1st to put a road in and be able to bu=
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homes by the Fall
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has had approximately 12 responses already
from the sign he has on the property
Don Sennett, senior project engineer and project
manager for the design, reviewed the plans for the sub-division. &=
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the entry will be off
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there are 27 proposed lots – 55 feet
wide
·
two proposed storm water management ponds=
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all the setbacks are shown – all of=
the
home footprints fall within the setbacks
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there is a 50 foot right-of-way with a 15
foot utility easement on both sides of the road
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no sidewalks
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proposed sanitary will connect on the nor=
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at the southern most part of the cul-de-sac
Dan
Evans had a concern about the road and if Mr. Shellhouse, Highway
Superintendent, had reviewed the road. He asked if the road would be up to =
code
for it to be designated to the Town.
Randy Woodbury said there is a section in the Town code that has road
specifications. He just wants=
to
make sure that the whole diameter and footage on the road has been approved=
by
the Highway Superintendent. T=
odd
said that Mr. Shellhouse had also suggested that they create a diameter of =
the
cul-de-sac of 200 feet, which is very large for a cul-de-sac, but based on =
his
request they did make it work.
Mr.
Sennett continued with the review of the plans.
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·
Dan had a question on the width of the dr=
ive
- the westerly driveway area =
to the
Colburn property seems pretty tight and asked Randy if there was anything in
the code for an entrance setback in a sub-division – Randy said there=
is
not setback for a driveway – the setback that would apply would be fr=
om
the road right-of-way to the front of the house and they met that
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·
The average square footage of the homes is
1400 to 1500 square feet with a minimum of 2 bedrooms – they have a o=
ne
car garage and basements unless someone does not want one - some have an ad=
ditional
study or optional upstairs loft
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Mr. Wright asked about the security around
the detention ponds – Mr. Sennett said there is nothing shown on the
plans – different Boards have different opinions – Mr. Sacarki
wants the ponds to be an asset and not an eyesore – his plan was that=
the
association would mow around the ponds and maintain them - Attorney Wright
asked why they would dedicate the road or the ponds as long as they were go=
ing
to have an association to maintain the properties and ponds – Mr. Sar=
acki
said the association would only do lawn mowing, driveway plowing, sidewalk
shoveling and in the Spring they would clean up the landscaping around the
house – he thinks a lot of the homeowners will be gone in the winter
– Randy said that the Highway Superintendent has expressed an interes=
t in
some Town rights in and within the ponds – Mr. Shellhouse would like =
to
address the drainage problem along the hill, south of Hunt Rd, in a more
regional way – Dan asked what they had discussed about fencing –
Randy said they did not discuss the fence but other ponds that have been bu=
ilt
with the Highway Department have been fenced – Attorney Wright said t=
hat
the Highway Superintendent or the Town Engineer will have to appear in fron=
t of
the Board at a meeting – Dan should take care of arranging that
appearance – Paul Shanahan asked what the slope of the ponds will be
– Mr. Sennett said the ponds are designed as wet ponds that will have
water in them at all times to a certain elevation – the side slopes of
the upper portions, used for storm water detention, are 3 on 1 – ther=
e is
a 10 foot safety bench that is 1 on 10 – the wet ponds themselves are=
2
½ on 1 – the average depth of standing water in the ponds woul=
d be
5’ to 6’ – there are no overflows, everything will go thr=
ough
the pipe – there are three properties that cannot drain into the pond
– the ditch will take care of that water – Paul said that
theoretically it should improve the drainage - the neighbors looked at the draina=
ge
plan and Mr. Saracki said that it may help their drainage
Lori Jones, 3 Idlewood Drive, Jamestown, NY, told
the Board they are really concerned about the drainage and they already have
major water problems. They cannot afford to have any additional problems. M=
r.
Saracki said they are actually downstream from Ms. Jones and so their water=
is
coming onto his property. Any=
thing
coming off their property will be captured on the west end of the Saracki
property. Ms. Jones said she =
did
not think Mr. Saracki’s property would get the water that comes from =
Marilyn Gerace,
There was further
discussion on the water problems. =
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Attorney Wright asked =
if
there were any report done to delineate wetlands. Mr. Sennett said that they had not=
and
said that it was not required. Discussion
followed and the Board decided that the applicant should have one done.
Mr. Evans noted that t=
he
Town had received a letter from the County Planning Board noting that the
County Planning Board:
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is not required to review subdivision
proposals
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recommends that the applicant should comp=
ly
with all state and local subdivision regulations and that the proposed entr=
ance
driveway should be reviewed for possible site distance or safety concerns a=
long
this portion of
Mrs. Gerace asked what=
the
target age for this subdivision was going to be. Mr. Saracki said that most of his
inquiries have been from customers that are approximately 60 years of age.<=
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ples
that want to occupy the homes approximately six months of the year. The approximate cost of the homes =
will
start at $179,900 and the average cost will be $200,000 to $225, 000.
The Board took a short
recess.
For this subdivision,
which is over five lots the board has to go through the major subdivision
approval procedure. Under Sec=
tion
130-5 of the Town Code the steps for an approval of a major subdivision are
outlined.
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the applicant must submit a sketch plan &=
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they would appear before the Board for basically a conceptual talk – =
Mr.
Wright said that happened about a year ago when Mr. Saracki came before the
Board
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next is the preliminary plat procedure
– that is what Mr. Saracki is presenting at this
meeting
- it is a plat plan in whatever stage of development the project is in
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the Board will review the plan and has 90
days to make a determination – they can conditionally approve the plat
plan with modifications or disapprove the preliminary plat plan – if =
the
Board disapproves the plat plan they should state grounds for disapproval -=
if
it approves with modification the procedure is to grant a conditional appro=
val
pending the final plat plan being submitted to the Board, at which time the
Board will schedule a public hearing and review the final plat plan –
the Board then has an additio=
nal 45
days to approve the final plat plan
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there are several sections of the code wi=
th
designed criteria and design standards – they appear in 130-6
(development standards), 130-7 (design standards – lot sizes, street
improvements and drainage), 130-8 (required improvements), 130-12 (major
subdivision plat plan accompanying data)
Attorney Wright sugges= ted that the Board go through the design criteria for major subdivisions to see= if they were met and identify any additional things that the Board would like = to see on the final plat plan. <= o:p>
The Board reviewed the
criteria in section 130-12 noting:
The Town will need a c=
opy
of any deed restrictions and also a copy of the homeowner’s associati=
on
agreement.
Mr. Saracki has not na=
med
the street yet. Mr. Wright stated that he will have to have it named before=
the
final approval.
Attorney Wright said t=
hat
the object of the Board now is to make a determination whether they can app=
rove
a final plat plan tonight with modifications, deny it for reasons that the
applicant did not meet requirements of the code or the Board has up to 90 d=
ays
or longer with the applicant’s approval to approve the plat plan. Mr. Wright’s recommendation =
would
be a preliminary approve with conditions and not take any part of the 90 da=
ys
and upon the applicant providing information on the conditions schedule a
public hearing on the final plat plan.
The Board has an
environmental assessment form but Attorney Wright said that does not to be =
done
before the final approval. It=
would
be the Highway Superintendent’s call if he wanted the Town engineer to
review the plans. Mr. Wright
suggested that the Board not spend the time to review the environmental for=
m at
this meeting but move forward with the approval of the preliminary plat pla=
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Chairman Evans noted t=
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the Board needs: =
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Because this has to be
noticed as a public hearing Mr. Saracki needs to have the information to the
Town before June 29, 2009.
Motion made by Paul Shanahan, seconded by Phyllis
Belin to conditionally approve the preliminary plat plan with the items lis=
ted
above to be included in the final plat plan.
Carried. =
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Noes – 0 =
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Ayes – 0
Paul Potter, P.E., representing Mike and Brenda
Alviti, addressed the Board on an expansion to construction of horseshoe pi=
ts
and volleyball courts at the Fountain Bowl, 3316 Fluvanna Ave., Jamestown, =
NY.
Mr. Potter reviewed the
plan with the Board noting:
The Board reviewed the
environmental assessment form. Attorney Wright stated that this proposed ac=
tion
does not exceed any threshold in 6 NYCRR, Part 617.4 and will not receive
coordinated review. The Board noted:
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this property is zoned mercantile
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if any permanent fences or awnings are pu=
t in
they must appear before the Planning Board for a site plan modification
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this proposed project will not have any
impact on the environmental characteristics that will cause the establishme=
nt
of a critical environmental area
·
there is no controversy related to any
potential adverse environmental impacts
·
the Board determined there will be not
significant impacts
Motion made by Paul Shanahan, seconded by Steve
Peterson that Chairman Evans execute with a negative declaration.
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Ayes – 7 =
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Noes – 0 =
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Absent – 0
Paul asked the
Alviti’s to locate on the plan where the dumpster would be. They will=
put
a fence around the dumpster.
Motion made by Steve Peterson, seconded by Gary
Swanson to approve the site plan for Mike and Brenda Alviti for the
construction of horseshoe pits and volleyball courts at the Fountain Bowl, =
3316
Fluvanna Ave., Jamestown, NY 14701.
The applicant will locate the dumpster and fence around the dumpster=
on
the plans.
Carried. =
Ayes – 7 =
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Noes – 0 =
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nt
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Chairman Evans stamped and dated three sets of
plans.
Paul Potter, P.E., presented plans for Mason of =
New
York, Inc., 575 Fairmount Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY for a 10’ by
16’ detached ice cream stand addition. Mr. Lyman Buck was present to
represent Mason of New York, Inc.
Before starting on the
site plan review, Attorney Wright asked what the code issues of putting a
temporary building in a Neighborhood Zone.=
He wanted to know if you could have employees working in a temporary
building. Randy said that he =
will
address the code issues before issuing the building permit. It will have to be electrical insp=
ected
by a third party.
The Board had concerns
about the disposal of the waster water from the ice cream stand. Randy said the carrying of the buc=
kets
for disposal is not a long term solution. Mr. Potter said there could possi=
bly
be some sort of grinder pump. The
Chautauqua County South and Center Sewer can advise on that.
Mr. Potter reviewed si=
te
plans and checklist noting:
Attorney Wright sugges=
ted
that they designated the parking spaces.&n=
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With the ice cream stand they have a potential to draw in a lot of
people. Randy agreed and stat=
ed
that there is code restrictions keep the cars to be ten feet away from the
building. He would like to se=
e in
the building permit application a striping plan and parking plan that is
designed by the engineer.
Mr. Buck said the only
issue will be the asphalt. If=
they
put the asphalt down now the building will sink into it. They need a period of time for the
asphalt to cure. He does not need asphalt under the ice cream stand because
there will be not parking there. Mr. Wright said the requirement in the cod=
e is
that all parking and driveway areas are to be bituminous. Mr. Potter said if the Board could =
get
conditional approval he could have the site plan for the delineated area by
next week and have it paved within thirty days. The Board was in agreement =
to
designate Randy to approve the paving and striping plan.
The Board reviewed the
environmental assessment form noting:
Mr. Potter made the
changes and initialed them in Part I of the form.
The Board reviewed Par=
t II
of the environmental form and determined:
Motion made by Gary Swanson, seconded by Paul
Shanahan to designate Chairman Evans sign the Environmental Assessment Form
making the designation that this proposed action will not result in any
significant adverse environmental impacts.
Carried. =
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Ayes – 7 =
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Absent – 0
Motion made by Gary Swanson, seconded by Fred
Santucci to approve the site plan for Mason of New York, Inc.,
1) the applicant will pav=
e the
parking area and the striping plan will be designed by Paul
Potter, P.=
E.,
and provided to Mr. Woodbury
Carried. =
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Ayes – 7 =
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Absent – 0
Chairman Evans stamped and signed three sets of =
site
plans.
Randy Woodbury reviewed the sketch plan for
LaScala’s, 3155 Fluvanna Ave., Jamestown, NY. Randy explained to the
Board that they want to renovate and reopen the restaurant on the opposite =
side
of Fluvanna where the Am Vets were.
There was never a site plan filed for that facility.
Paul Potter, P.E., will do the site plan and Dia=
ne
Hendricks will be doing the interior design.
Mr. Mike Seagren told the Board =
that
he never received the checklist for the site plan review. Randy informed him
that is on the Town of
Mr. Seagren said they =
will
use the building just for a restaurant for now but will possibly have tenan=
ts
in the rest of the building. =
Randy
suggested that show that on the site plan so they would not have to come be=
fore
the Planning Board again when they decided to have possible additional tena=
nts.
They will not have any
outside dining at this facility.
Ms. Hendricks asked ab=
out
the lighting and the landscaping. The Board said that Mr. Potter will be ab=
le
to address all of the 28 points of the site plan review.
Motion made by Gary Swanson, seconded by Ron Cal=
anni
to adjourn the meeting at 10:52 P.M.
Carried. =
Ayes – 7 =
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Absent – 0
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