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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWN OF ELLICOTT
PLANNING BOARD HELD AT THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 215 SOUTH WORK STREET, =
FALCONER,
NY 14733 ON JULY 8, 2009 AT 7:00 P.M.
PRESENT: Chairman Dan Evans, Gary Swanson, Ron Calanni, Ph=
yllis
Belin, Paul Shanahan, Fred Santucci, Attorney William Wright, Code Enforcem=
ent
Officer Randy Woodbury and
Secretary Valerie Pierce
ABSENT: Steve
Peterson
Chairman Evans opened the meet=
ing
at 7:00 PM.
Motion made by Gary Swanson, s=
econded
by Ron Calanni to approve the minutes of the June 10, 2009 meeting.
Carried. =
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Ayes – 6 =
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Noes – 0 &=
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Chairman Evans opened the Publ=
ic
Hearing for LaScala’s Restaurant Site Plan
Paul Potter presented the Site Plan, Survey by Michael Rodgers. This was a report=
of
exactly what already exists.
·
No drainage changes
·
No driveway changes
·
Lighting will stay exac=
tly
as is and a lighting plan will be submitted to Randy Woodbury
·
There are a couple of s=
torm
water basins. Most water runs=
off
backside. The property slopes=
to
the back toward the lake
·
The driveway on the West
will be an entrance and the driveway on the East will be an exit.
·
There will be landscapi=
ng
·
This is Mercantile Zone=
in
all directions
·
No municipal water or s=
ewer
(sewer was tested right after purchase)&nb=
sp;
Well is in front
·
Issues regarding a priv=
acy fence
were discussed
·
A fence must be built
around the dumpster
·
No drainage issues, pro=
perty
not in wetlands area
·
Last hydrant is at city
line
· Premises had previously been granted a variance from State Code for a sprinkler system for an assem= bly space by the NYS Dept. of Labor. Mr. Potter is working to see if variance carries over to new owner.<= o:p>
·
Any and all signs will =
be
in compliance
Atto=
rney
Wright noted for the record that this project is a Type II action and is ex=
empt
from the SEQRA.
Motion by Gary Swanson, second=
ed
by Phyllis Belin that this plan be accepted with the four contingencies:
1. To have signs in compliance
2. <=
span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> Install a fence around dumpster
3. Submit a lighting plan
4. Submit dimensions of all buildings=
on
property.
Carried. =
Ayes- 6 &n=
bsp;  =
; Noes- 0 &n=
bsp;  =
; Absent-1
Paul Potter presented plans fo=
r Chautauqua
Watershed Conservatory Projects. Since more people were attending for the Fluvanna project than the
Elmwood Av WE project, the Fluvanna project was presented first.
·
There will be a sign
stating the area will be open from sunrise to sunset
·
A 3 x 4 ft sign (or what
would be allowed in this zone) is proposed for the front entrance
·
Posts would be installe=
d to
keep cars from going in further
·
Proposed parking will be
for three vehicles, there is parking for two at present
·
Formal surveying by Mike
Rodgers and staking has been done
Kathy Park, 2806 Denslow Ave=
span> stated that presently there isn’t much vehicle traffic that go=
es
down into the area.
Bruce Cobb, 3352 Old Fluvanna =
Rd, is against the proposed project because when the area used to be more
accessible, there were cars going in and out at all hours. Trash was left behind. It’s a nice residential area=
and
he would like to keep it that way.
James Seymour, 2802 Denslow Av=
, asked if a gate could be installed instead of a post in case the
neighbors needed access to their back yard.
Jim Glenn, 3351 Old Fluvanna R=
d, has no problem with Conservatory project and parking is OK if there =
is a
stipulation of rules and regulations.
He is concerned that more people will be visiting there when they kn=
ow
it isn’t private property.
Dean Valliancourt, 2782 Denslow
Av, prefers the area to be left as
is. Parking lot and signs adv=
ertise
for people come to this area. He is
concerned there will be more trash left behind.
Eugene Forness, 3365 Old Fluva=
nna
Rd, wants to know if there are g=
oing
to be guided tours and the purpose of having this is.
It is
desired to make this a nice nature preserve and the neighbors are the best
defense of abuse to the property.
It is to promote environmentalism.&=
nbsp;
They do not want to see it trashed.=
If there is to be a tour after posted hours the neighbors will be
notified. They do not want pe=
ople
partying. They have already removed a lot of debris from the area.
·
Suggestion to have one =
of
the neighbors lock and unlock a gate to keep people out during evening hour=
s.
·
If there are abuses, the
neighbors should contact the Watershed Conservancy. To prevent use by off road recreat=
ional
vehicles a trail would be constructed to not be conducive to such vehicles.=
Some trees could be dropped onto t=
he
trails if needed.
·
No development is plann=
ed
for waterfront. No docks, no
improvements.
·
Signs around perimeter:=
No
littering, camping, dumping, vehicles, parties, hunting or trapping.
·
Zoning is Residential (a 2 sq ft sign would be allowed)<=
o:p>
·
They would like a sign =
by
the river indicating it is a nature preserve.
·
They would be willing to
gate the area.
·
Land by lake is NYS DEC=
wet
lands.
·
There will be no
landscaping. Trails will just=
be
gravel level with grass. No m=
owing.
They may or may not plow for cross country skiing.
·
Parking lot is 40 ft fr=
om
road.
·
They would like to put =
in
gravel ASAP and put in sign.
·
The gate could be part =
of
this project.
·
They have eight propert=
ies
like this, some have parking areas, some don’t and so far, they have =
had
few problems.
·
There will be no trash
containers
·
There are no current pl=
ans
to extend the trails.
A fu=
ll
sized Rodgers Survey will be presented to Randy Woodbury with alterations a=
nd
the alterations will be stamped and signed.
The =
gate
will be a pipe between two other pipes that will be locked. It will be similar to the Westfield
Watershed and gas line roads. There
will be an anchor to prevent it from swinging shut once opened. Randy Woodbury will call the gate a
fence because a fence has to meet the character of the neighborhood.
It w=
as
noted that the Board did waive the following criteria:
·
The grading and drainage
plan
·
The storm water managem=
ent
plan
·
The required bituminous
surface for the entrance drive and parking area
·
The aerial map
·
The map of site topogra=
phy
The
Board reviewed the SEQR. Atto=
rney
Wright stated that this action does not exceed any type I threshold in 6 NY=
CRR,
Part 617.4 and would not receive any coordinated review. The Board noted th=
at:
Motion by Gary Swanson seconde=
d by Paul Shanahan to accept the criteria of the Site Plan with the
waivers afore mentioned and with the stipulations:
·
that the entry will be gated and maintained in a
locked position from dusk to dawn by the Chautauqua Watershed Conservancy or
neighbors
·
if it is reported that the trail is being abused =
by
any off road vehicles the CWC will take measures to put barriers up to prev=
ent such
abuse
·
nei=
ghbors
will receive prior notification to any night time educational tours that may
occur
·
any signs will be compliant
Carried. =
Ayes- 6 &n=
bsp;  =
; Noes- 0 &n=
bsp;  =
; Absent-
1
Paul Potter presented plans for
the Elmwood Av WE Water Conservatory project
·
Plans are for parking t=
wo
cars on the paper street.
·
They are proposing a 1 =
x 2
ft double sided sign to be placed at Elmwood, with an arrow.
·
There will be an
informational kiosk with a map of the site and of the trail along with rules
and regulations.
·
There will be some brid=
ges
and since it is in a flood plain area, the bridges will be designed by an
engineer with an hydrology study.
All bridges will have some kind of structural analysis. A bridge is defined as anything ov=
er 20
feet in length, anything under that is a culvert.
·
There will be no gate as
cars can not go beyond parking area.
There is a ditch approximately 4 ft deep that would need to be cross=
ed.
·
There will be no buildi=
ngs
on this property.
·
There will be a building
permit for bridges and openings will be determined by hydrology studies.
Alan Hendrickson of 21 Winsor
Place is concerned about the develop=
ment
of the land. He donated his l=
and to
the CWC to protect the entire neighborhood.
Brian Orlando of 48 Elmwood Av=
opposes the parking situation.
He wants the trails in but wants to eliminate the parking. Let the neighborhood use it. People can park at the plaza and w=
alk
up. He feels that by eliminating parking it would eliminate the problem of =
people
leaving trash and it would deter people from using it. He is concerned about the children=
in
the neighborhood with the increased parking and traffic. He doesn’t want people parki=
ng
along Elmwood Av.
Alan
Hendrickson believes the paper street isn’t the property of the
Town. He claims the Town has =
never
said the paper street is the Town’s property. Brian states that he and his wife
maintain the paper street and have for 20 yrs. He was told he couldn’t
acquire same street five years ago.
Atty. Wright stated that there are two cases where individuals in the
Town have been able to have revocable license agreements with the Town for =
the
use of the paper street with indemnification with insurance provisions. Until such agreement is reached, t=
he
Zoning Board can not approve a Site Plan that has the use of that paper
street.
Victoria Bardo of 49 Elmwood A=
v, loves the idea of a walking trail with access to all the land. She is concerned about the parking
situation. She does not want =
people
parking on her lawn and she does not want undesirables in her neighborhood,
speeding, litter or noise.
Tim Landy of 56 Elmwood Av is concerned about overflow of parking because there a lot of kids in
the neighborhood.
Dennis Webster of 45 Elmwood A=
v is in agreement with the conservancy’s overall goals for this
property to conserve it as an undeveloped and undisturbed area. He is concerned of people taking
advantage of the site without regard to the neighborhood’s and CWC sh=
ared
goals. He fears that creating=
easy
access to a natural space in a heavily populated area would lead to somethi=
ng
counter productive for the CWC and neighborhood.
The
secretary has a letter from Lisa Vanstrom, 55 Plummer Av, who=
is
in favor of the project. She stated that the Conservancy has a long standing
tradition of responsibility and tastefulness with their projects. She feels
this would protect a natural land asset.
Lett=
ers
were also filed from Vicky Bardo and Dennis Webster.
The
board requested more detail on the parking area.
Esti=
mated
time for completion of this project depends on costs and an easement from t=
he
Town.
Motion by Paul Shanahan second=
ed
by Fred Santucci to table this decision until the Chautauqua Watershed
Conservancy appears before the Town Board.
Carried: =
Ayes:
6 =
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sp; Noes:
0 =
&nb=
sp; Absent:
1
The
Board took a short recess at 9:25 PM.
Chai=
rman
Evans reopened the public hearing for Todd Saracki (Carlton Homes, LLC) =
for
Site Plan approval and the Subdivision approval for the Hawthorne Patio Home
Subdivision located off NY
Don Sennett, PE for this proje=
ct,
told the Board they had submitted a
letter accompanying the plan that included the additional items they needed=
for
compliance of the subdivision approval.
·
The name of the road is=
·
Adjoining subdivision h=
ave
been added to the plat plan –
·
Lots are numbered.
·
The comments made by th=
e South
and Center Chautauqua Lake Sewer District have been added/corrected to the
plans – they requested on the sewer plan to move a manhole 10 feet fr=
om a
property line – they requested Mr. Saracki drop a couple of laterals =
to
the property for future development – they asked that the laterals be
marked
·
They have looked at the
sight distances along Hunt Road – they obtained the original design of
Hunt Road from the County – they also took spot elevations along Hunt
Road – the findings are that the stopping sight distance is as per
today’s AASHTO requirements – on the sag curve the headlight si=
ght
distance is only 163 feet – this is not usually a problem if there ar=
e no
obstructions
· The water plan has been submitted by the BPU to the Chautauqua County Health Department for review – they are complying with the current requirements for the subdivisio= n by South and Center Chautauqua Lake Sewer District which was to fill out paper work and submit three final sets of plans and the engineer’s report <= o:p>
·
Mr. Sennett said that t=
he
other items that the Board discussed were to have Highway Superintendent
Shellhouse’s approval:
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The roadway width
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Cul-de-sac diameter
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The acceptability of the
Town to accept the drainage systems, lighting, fencing and the involvement =
of
the Town engineer
Mr.
Shellhouse did write a letter that stated he had reviewed the latest plans =
for
the subdivision: &nb=
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As p=
art
of the storm water notice of termination Todd would have to attest to the f=
act
that he has a homeowners association.
Atto=
rney
Wright asked if they had any idea on how long it would take on the approval=
of
the water plant. The Health
department will not approve the water until the applicant has the Town̵=
7;s
approval on the subdivision. =
No one
can occupy anything until the Health Department approves and no building
permits can be issued until their approval.
Randy
said that the
Atto= rney Wright said the minutes stated a letter was required from the Highway Superintendent with his recommendation on the size and maintenance of the r= oad and the lighting and fences around the pond. Mr. Shellhouse did not say if he w= anted the Town engineer involved in the drainage plan. Randy said that he did review the = plans with Mr. Shellhouse but did not have the points in question in front of him. Randy said that his opin= ion would be that there should be a fence around the pond. There has only been one exception = to that and that was because the entry slopes were extremely gradual. The Board agreed there should be a fence around the ponds. The fence should be at least 4 foo= t tall and not higher then 6 feet. <= o:p>
Atto=
rney
Wright said he had received an e-mail concerning the homeowner’s
agreement from Mr. Saracki’s attorney but did not have time to review
that. Todd said that he thought it was pretty basic and left that up to his
attorney.
The
final point in the discussion at the last meeting was wetlands.
The
Board asked for a copy of the BPU submittal to the Health Department. Mr. Saracki said that he did not h=
ave
one but knew that everything had been done.
The
Board discussed procedure.
Motion made by Ron Calanni,
seconded by Fred Santucci to accept this plat plan as the final plat plan a=
nd
schedule the Public Hearing for this subdivision for August 12, 2009 at 7:00
PM.
Carried. =
Ayes – 5 =
&nb=
sp;
Noes – 0 =
Absent – 2
Secr=
etary
Pierce was asked to publish the notice in the paper at least 5 days prior to
the Public Hearing and notice the same neighbors again. The EAF will need t=
o be
reviewed before the final approval. The site plan checklist is not appropri=
ate
for this because the subdivision has its own requirements.
Timothy Magnuson, owner of 484=
Fairmount
Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY (Dibert Home) and Dave Gollnick, builder, present=
ed a
sketch plan to add a 1960 SF addition to the Dibert Home.
Mr.
Gollnick reviewed the plans with the Board.
The
Board went through the checklist and noted the applicant will need to addre=
ss
all of the 28 points on the checklist.&nbs=
p;
The
applicant must apply before July 16, 2009 to be put on the agenda for the
Zoning Board.
There
was discussion on the Comprehensive Plan.&=
nbsp;
In Section 146-75 B of the Town of
Randy
said that the Town Board would like the Planning Board and Town Board to go
through the Comprehensive Plan and have the Public Hearing jointly. Mr. Wright said that to prepare fo=
r that
the Planning Board should have the work session. The consultant will come f=
or
the Public Hearing. Randy sai=
d the
Town Board would like a specific end date.
The work session is set for
Wednesday, July 22, 2009.
Motion made by Fred Santucci,
seconded by Paul Shanahan to adjourn the meeting at 10:30 PM.
Carried. =
Ayes – 5 &nbs=
p; &=
nbsp; Noes – 0 &=
nbsp;
Absent - 2
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Vale=
rie
Pierce, Secretary
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– Regular Planning Board Minutes cont.