MINU=
TES OF
THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWN OF ELLICOTT PLANNING BOARD HELD AT THE
ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 215 SOUTH WORK STREET, FALCONER, NY 14733 ON AUGUS=
T 12,
2009 AT 7:00 P.M.
PRESENT: Chairman Dan Evans, Gary Swanson, Ron Calanni, Ph=
yllis
Belin, Paul Shanahan, Steve Peterson, Fred Santucci, Attorney William Wrigh=
t,
Code Enforcement Officer Randy Woodbury and Secretary Valerie Pierce=
o:p>
ABSENT: None=
Chairman Evans opened the meet=
ing
at 7:10 PM.
Motion made by Paul Shanahan, =
seconded
by Gary Swanson to approve the minutes of the June 10, 2009 meeting. <=
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p>
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p>
Carried. =
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Ayes – 7 =
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sp;
Noes – 0 &=
nbsp; &nbs=
p; Absent – 0<=
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p>
Chai=
rman
Evans reopened the public hearing for Chautauqua Watershed Conservancy to
install foot trails and a gravel parking area at Woodworth Ave and Elmwood Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY.
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p>
Randy
Woodbury told the Board the Conservancy had requested this application be
continued until the next meeting because they are waiting to close on
additional property that would affect their consideration.
Mr.
Evans opened the public hearing for Todd Saracki (Carlton Homes, LLC) for
the Hawthorne Patio Home Subdivision, on Hunt Rd., W.E., Jamestown, NY
for =
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sp;
=
approval
of the subdivision and final plat plan.
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p>
Mr. =
Don
Sennett, PE, told the Board that:
- the water design w=
as
approved by the Health Department – it had been designed by the
Jamestown Board of Public Utilities – he provided a letter and a=
copy
of the water system design
- the plan has been
revised to reflect the ownership of both ponds by the homeowner’s
association with an easement to the Town of Ellicott
- the plan also refl=
ects
the addition of a four foot fence around both ponds =
- the Heath Departme=
nt
has reviewed the project in its entirety and he has a letter that they=
are
good with what is happening but cannot approve the plan until the Plan=
ning
Board approves it – the Health Department did request they show a
utility drawing with connections to the houses and that they be sent to
the DEC – the applicant provided new plans with the ch=
anges
- the lighting will =
be
dusk to dawn pole lanterns - the applicant will put poles in to
delineate the road until the houses are built an=
d the
lanterns are in
- Attorney Wright st=
ated
he has received a draft copy of the homeowners association agreement
– Todd said he has been waiting for the final approval of the
subdivision so he can tell his attorney to finalize the agreement R=
11;
they will get the final copy to Attorney Wright
Jack Scalise, 67 Nottingham
Circle, W.E., Jamestown, NY, stat=
ed
he is not against this project but has concerns with the 24” drainage
pipe that will disperse the water coming from the detention pond. He owns lots adjacent to Todd Sara=
cki’s
property, that he is trying to sell, and does not think he will be able to =
sell
the lots if prospective buyers see the 24” pipe. Mr. Scalise told the
Board that you could not see the pipe before but buyers would now see the
24” pipe. Mr. Scalise stated he had other concerns but his main one is
the visibility of the 24” pipe.
There
was discussion on the drainage.
- There is a pipe no=
w and
Dan Evans said that if you walk up there water is coming out of the di=
tch
any day of the week
- Mr. Sennett explai=
ned
the drainage and told Mr. Scalise that there will be less water runoff
unto his property - they need the 24 “pipe so they can slow down=
the
velocity
- Attorney Wright as=
ked
Mr. Sennett if the pipe could be backed off of the property line so th=
at
the spillage from the pipe is away from the property line and turned i=
nto
a more natural state because you do get the visual of the pipe
- Mr. Wright also as=
ked if
a 24 inch pipe is large for this water detention facility - Mr. Sennett
said that the pipe is not what is controlling the flow –it is
controlled by a very small orifice, then a small weir and then a larger
weir - by law you are not forced to store the water from=
a 100
year storm - they do not want to go over the road or down the bank and=
do
not want erosion to take place - the ditch that is there now is much
larger than the 24” pipe will be - running full it carries much =
more
water than the pipe will – the pipe will store the water and rel=
ease
it a slower rate – they could bring the pipe back slightly and t=
ry to
take care of the slope but the slope (3 on 1) is as steep as they would
ever want to have and still have cars come around the pond - such a la=
rge
pipe is needed to take care of all the water that comes unto Mr.
Saracki’s property as well as his own runoff - State regulations
state you cannot interrupt natural drainage patterns and block someone
else’s drainage - the pipe will end approximately 10 feet from t=
he
property line.
- Mr. Scalise stated
that this will make his property worthless and he should just deed it =
back
to the Town of Ellicott=
st1:place>
- He said that bringing the pipe back 10 feet will not make it any bet=
ter.
- Dan asked if it we=
re
possible to take the outage drain and pick it up with DI’s behind
the houses - Mr. Sennett said it could not be carried to the other pon=
d -
the reason two ponds were proposed was because there are two distinct
drainage patterns occurring on the site - according to regulations they
can not increase the amount of runoff
- Mr. Scalise told t=
he
applicant that another solution was to buy the lot and put the pipe all
the way though the ditch to the far side of the property - Mr. Saracki
said it would be a huge undertaking to do that because the lot has so =
many
hills and ravines.
There
were no other neighbors present.
The
Planning Board did not want to review the site plan checklist again since t=
hey
had gone through it before. <=
o:p>
The =
Board
did receive a letter from Highway Superintendent Shellhouse. Attorney Wright
asked if the water treatment ponds would be retained by the Homeowners Asso=
ciation
because it was originally intended to be deeded over to the Town. Mr. Sennett said that the Town wil=
l have
an easement in and over the outlet pipe and in and over the ponds. That was a request of the Town High=
way
Superintendent.
Randy
explained that the County and Town have applied for a grant to do a regional
correction to some of the drainage problems on the hill south of Hunt Road.<=
span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> The Town has already begun that wo=
rk
with the money they received from Verizon Wireless. They have corrected the
drainage problem the Geraces had. Randy said the one disadvantage to that i=
s it
will carry sediment on through that will end up in the pond the Town built =
near
Southwestern School. It will not move the sedim=
ent
into Chautauqua Lake.<=
/p>
The
Planning Board needed to review the long form environmental assessment. Ran=
dy
went to make copies for the Board members.=
Chai=
rman
Evans reopened the Public Hearing for Timothy Magnuson and Robert Ostrom=
for
a site plan for an addition to the boarding home at 484 Fairmount Ave., W.E=
.,
Jamestown, NY (Dibert Home).
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p>
Joe Wenger, 29 N Hanford Ave.,
W.E., Jamestown, NY, told the Board that he =
came
to see the plans because they share a side property. Mr. Wenger was told th=
at
this addition was going to be on the north side and for one resident. The B=
oard
had seen a one page sketch but had not seen any other plans.
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p>
Randy
told the Board that he received a call from Tim Magnuson on Monday requesti=
ng that
this application be withdrawn because of the cost of the engineer. Randy said that he had offered to =
help
with contours to save them some money and that the applicant had an opportu=
nity
to ask for any waivers at the sketch plan conference but they did not reque=
st
any waivers. Randy stated that he thought the Board policy in the past had =
been
to ask for the withdrawal in writing.
Atto=
rney
Wright said that he would like to have a formal action from the Board accep=
ting
the withdrawal of the application. <=
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Motion made by Paul Shanahan,
seconded by Gary Swanson to accept the withdrawal of the application of Tim=
othy
Magnuson and Robert Ostrom for site plan review for an addition to 484
Fairmount Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY.
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p>
Carried. =
Ayes – 7 =
Noes – 0 =
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sp;
Absent – 0
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p>
The
Board continued with the environmental assessment form for the Hawthorne
Subdivision on Hunt Road=
st1:address>. The members took time to review the
SEQR.
- Steve Peterson had=
a
question on the surface of an existing water body – Mr. Sennett
stated there is no existing water body – they will be adding two=
new
water bodies
- Phyllis Belin asked
about the generating of solid waste – they will generate solid w=
aste
during construction and residents will once they live there – the
project will not involve the disposal of any solid waste (not a landfi=
ll)
- Attorney Wright as=
ked
about hunting existing on the project area – he believes there is
significant amount of hunting in the project area – Mr. Sennett =
said
there is none on this property but he would agree there is within the
project area.
- Mr. Wright also ha=
d a
question on the area of lakes, ponds or wetlands – they indicate=
d .4
feet – when the site was delineated they indicated 1.2 acres of
wetlands – Mr. Sennett said that he had filled out the form befo=
re
the property was delineated – Mr. Saracki changed and initialed =
the
change to 1.4 acres
- there was discussi=
on
on the maximum number of vehicular trips generated per hour on the
completed project – Mr. Sennett said it was a calculated guess
– they changed the number to 30 per hour
- they filled in the
anticipated date of commencement as September 1, 2009 – there is
only one phase so the anticipated date of completion is September 2010=
.
- The maximum potent=
ial
development of the site as permitted by the present zoning is calculat=
ed
by taking out a road way and taking side yard setbacks and dividing the
minimum size of the lot - you can get 81 houses – Mr. Sennett sa=
id
that would not realistic but what would be allowed under the zoning
- Mr. Saracki initia=
led
the changes to the maximum vehicular trips and the commencement and
completion dates
The
Board reviewed Part II of the environmental form (determination of
significance) noting:
- there would be an
impact on land – there was 1% of the property that was 15% or
greater - it would be small to moderate because it is being altered
– the water table is 1.5 feet for the property – - Mr. Sen=
nett
stated that the perched water table are surface water – it would=
be
the wetlands that were discussed that will be going away - it would be=
a
small to moderate impact
- there will not be =
an
effect to any unique or unusual land forms found on the site
- there will be no
impact on water
- the proposed action
will not affect any non-protected existing or new body of water=
o:p>
- the proposed action
will not affect surface or groundwater quality or quantity =
- the proposed action
alter drainage flow or patterns, or surface water runoff – it wi=
ll
change flood water flows – the applicant is planning to drain la=
nd
that is wet or sub-standard at his own peril by his study on his own <=
o:p>
- the proposed action
will not affect air quality
- the proposed action
will not impact plants or animals – it will not affect any
threatened or endangered species – DEC site showed no threatened
species
- the proposed action
will not substantially affect non-threatened or non-endangered species=
- there will be no
impact on agricultural land resources
- the proposed action
will not affect aesthetic resources
- the proposed proje=
ct
will not impact any site or structure of historic, prehistoric or
paleontological importance – the applicant did have a letter on =
that
in the storm water management report from Parks and Recreation
- there will be no
impact on open space and recreation
- the proposed action
will not impact exceptional or unique characteristics of a critical
environmental area established pursuant to subdivision 6NYCRR 617.14 (=
g)
- there will be an
effect to existing transportation systems - the site distances were addre=
ssed
- the proposed action
will not affect the community’s sources of fuel or energy supply=
- there will be no
impact on odors, noise, or vibration
- the proposed action
will not affect public health or safety
- there will be no
impact on the growth and character of the existing community
- there is likely to=
be
no public controversy related to potential adverse environmental impac=
ts
– there will not be a potential large impact and Mr. ScaliseR=
17;s
concern is more a aesthetic concern than a physical concern –
calculating the water coming off the site is better than it is before
construction
- the Board determin=
ed there
would be no large impacts
Motion made by Gary Swanson,
seconded by Steve Peterson making the determination the project will not ca=
use
a significant adverse environmental impact.
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p>
Mr.
Scalise told the Board he has a major concern that this will make it so he
cannot sell his lots (with the visual 24” pipe). Mr. Sennett said that
the 24” pipe will slow down the velocity. Attorney Wright told Mr. Scalise t=
hat
the Planning Board has to rely on the data that is given to them by an
engineer. He certainly has an independent cause of action for nuisance or
trespass for re-diversion of water that causes damage to his property if th=
ey
determine this is increasing water flow unto his property. The numbers that the Board has seen
determines it does not increase the water flow. Gary asked if they could plant somethin=
g in
front of the pipe and Mr. Sennett stated there could be something plant shr=
ubs
(no large plantings) on the sides but nothing in front that would obstruct =
the
pipe.
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p>
Carried. =
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Ayes – 7 =
Noes – 0 =
Absent – 0
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p>
The
Board stipulated some additional items they needed:
- copies of the third
sheet (the proposed sanitary and water lines with changes that the hea=
lth
department requested) – they will be provided to Randy Woodbury<=
o:p>
- the final copy of =
the
homeowners agreement when complete – one to Randy and one to
Attorney Wright
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p>
Motion made by Paul Shanahan,
seconded by Gary Swanson to approve the plan for Todd Saracki (Carlton Home=
s,
LLC) for the Hawthorne Patio Home Subdivision as presented with the two
stipulations listed above.
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p>
Carried. =
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sp;
Ayes – 7 &nb=
sp; =
Noes – 0 =
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sp;
Absent – 0
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p>
Chairman Evans stamped and dat=
ed
three sets of plan.
The
Board took a short break at 8:45 PM
The
Board reconvened at 9:12 PM
Andrew Goodell, Esquire, presented a revised site plan for Richard and Anthony Benedetto to
extend their parking at 42=
Dunham
Ave., W.E., Jamestown,
NY.
- they are proposing=
an
additional 1250 square feet of asphalt with 11 nine foot wide parking
spaces
- their drainage is
working well and the engineers said this would have no impact on the
existing drainage system and well within the design parameters =
o:p>
- there are
currently five parking s=
paces
that are parking north and south that will be converted into the 11 sp=
aces
- there is an
approximate six foot drop off at the steepest point – they will =
put
bumpers there
- the original plan =
had
a service entrance on the lower part of the building – there has
been parking there and Mr. Benedetto has addressed that – he told
them they cannot have routine parking there on the graveled area<=
/o:p>
- Attorney Wright to=
ld
the Board that the Zoning Board had granted a 12 ½ foot area
variance not to exceed 11 parking spaces – the site distance of =
the
parking spaces by the driveway were a concern of the ZBA so the reques=
ted
spaces were reduced to 11
- there are no other
changes (signs or lighting) to the site
- the dumpster is not
fenced in – Randy checked the minutes and it was a condition of =
the
original site plan that the dumpster be fenced in – the applicant
will be fencing in the dumpster
- the Board received=
a
letter from Paul Potter, PC that stated there will be no impact on the
drainage - Randy said th=
ere is
a maintenance issue on the drainage that is minor that he will take ca=
re
of
- Attorney Wright st=
ated
this proposed project is exempt from SEQR
Motion made by Steve Peterson, seconded b=
y Fred
Santucci to approve the modified site plan for Richard and Anthony Benedetto
for additional parking at 42 Dunham Ave., W.E., Jamestown, NY to be complet=
ed
by November 15, 2009. =
o:p>
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p>
Carried. =
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sp;
Ayes – 7 =
&nb=
sp;
Noes – 0 =
&nb=
sp;
Absent – 0
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p>
Chai=
rman
Evans stamped and dated three sets of plans.
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p>
Motion made by Ron Calanni,
seconded by Steve Peterson to adjourn the meeting at 9:28 PM.
Carried. =
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sp;
Ayes – 7 =
&nb=
sp;
Noes – 0 =
&nb=
sp;
Absent – 0
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p>
The
Board discussed the date of the next meeting. Some of the members will not be
available for the 9th of September. The Board decided they would leave=
the
date the same and see if they get any applications. They will have a comprehensive plan
meeting on August 26, 2009. V=
al or
Randy will send a reminder.
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______________________________
Vale=
rie
Pierce, Secretary
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