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MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWN OF ELLICOTT
PLANNING BOARD HELD AT THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, 215 SOUTH WORK STREET,
FALCONER, NY 14733 ON NOVEMBER 18, 2009 AT 6:00 P.M.
PRESENT: Chairman
ABSENT: Gary
Swanson
Chairman Evans opened the meet=
ing
at 6:52 PM.
Motion made by Steve Peterson,
seconded by Ron Calanni to approve the minutes of the September 16, 2009
meeting.
Carr=
ied. =
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Ayes – 6 =
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Noes – 0 &nb=
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span>
– 1
Chairman Evans opened the Publ=
ic
Hearing for Timothy Ruch for site plan review f=
or NY
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Jerry Erickson, PE<=
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-b=
idi-font-weight:
bold'> for Mr. Ruch’s project addressed t=
he
Board.
Atto=
rney
Wright informed the Board members that Mr. Ruch=
had
appeared before the Zoning Board of Appeals and was granted a permit for th=
ree
apartments at
Randy
Woodbury said that because Mr. Ruch operated the
Saloon and the newly designated apartment building as kind of a campus, the
Zoning Board wanted the site plan to reflect both businesses together. That is why the Planning Board is
reviewing both properties. Randy said in his opinion they are being used
together. Randy said that one=
of
the proposed additions would not meet the current setback requirements. The Zoning Board did not approve
anything for the proposed additions but determined that the two properties =
were
being used in conjunction with each other. Randy’s opinion was that t=
he
site plan should cover the entire project.=
Atto=
rney
Wright did have an issue with the proposed additions that are marked on the
plan because this is a prior non-conforming use. This property is in a neighborhood
business zone. Randy said tha=
t the
applicant would need an area variance and perhaps a use variance if they wa=
nted
to proceed with the proposed additions.&nb=
sp;
Attorney Wright told the Board that they wanted to make it very clear
that they are not approving the proposed additions with this site plan.
The
Board needs to make sure if either property were sold they could stand
alone. Chairman Evans made it=
clear
that the Board was not looking at the proposed additions.
Mr. =
Ruch needs the approval for the apartments now but ca=
n wait
for approval on the proposed additions.&nb=
sp;
Chairman Evans told the Board they were not considering any proposed
additions with this current site plan.&nbs=
p;
They are just looking at the plans but passing no judgment on them. =
If
separated both properties would have to be able to stand on their own. There
was discussion on the parking. Mr. Erickson said that there would be enough
parking for the apartments next to the building. In his opinion, if the
properties were ever to split, they would both have ample parking.
Atto=
rney
Wright said the only issue in front of the Zoning Board was the apartment
building conversion. There wa=
s no
discussion of any changes to the tavern during the Zoning Board meeting.
Chai=
rman
Evans asked
Jerry
Erickson told the Board that except for the areas that are marked proposed
additions everything on the plans is what exists currently. There is a fire escape that was ad=
ded
for the second floor bedroom that is part of the building permit to remodel=
the
downstairs. The parking space=
s are
presently not marked. The sur=
face
of the parking space is bituminous &n=
bsp;
Mr. Ruch explained his plan for the mark=
ing of
the parking. There is ample p=
arking
with enough space for emergency vehicles.&=
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He has space for snow removal.
If there is too much snow he has it removed.
Randy
said this building will go back to residential. There are plans that meet the NYS =
Building
Code for the conversion and will now be a three dwelling residence in a
neighborhood business zone. It
still may have some setback issues under the current code but its use is a
“use –by-right” in a residential zone provided they get a
special use permit.
Mr.
Erickson told the Board that while finishing the plan they added a little s=
pace
for storage.
It w=
as
agreed they wanted to make the dining room bigger and Randy suggested they =
show
that on the plans.
Randy confirmed that the only thing the Board can approve at this meeting is on t= he residential building. <= o:p>
The
Planning Board reviewed the site plan checklist noting
Any =
fire
codes will be taken care of with the building permit.
Atto=
rney
Wright stated this proposed action is exempt from SEQR.
Chai=
rman
Evans asked for the motion to state that the proposed 2010 additions be rem=
oved
from the site plan.
Motion made by Phyllis Belin,
seconded by Paul Shanahan to approve the site plan for the conversion of
Carried. =
Ayes – 6 =
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Noes – 0 =
Absent
– 1
Allen and Mary Peterson,
Mr.
Peterson read a letter concerning rezoning of his property on
Mich=
ael
Erlandson, Town Clerk and Randy Woodbury, CEO have researched this zoning.<=
span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> Mr. Peterson said he has seen maps=
that
originally showed the zone right where that property line when Boyle’s
bought the property and it went right where Mr. Peterson’s barn went.=
He
does not like asking to rezone it when he does not think that it should nev=
er
have been. He feels that this was what was intended when the original zoning
change was made.
Mr.
Peterson said that Boyle’s is a very considerate neighbor. He is asking that the Board consid=
er
rezoning the small section of the commercial zone back to residential. Mr. =
Peterson
wants to know that there is some sort of protection short term as well as l=
ong
term. If this were going to be developed the Planning Board would have to
approve a complete site plan. The
Board would ask for some sort of buffer if that came in for site plan revie=
w.
Mr.
Erickson asked if there could be a side agreement between Mr. Peterson and
Boyle’s as a deed restriction. =
Attorney Wright stated they could consensually agree to a deed
restriction but that is difficult for enforceability in the future and it w=
ould
not involve the Town. Mr. Eri=
ckson
asked if there could be an easement created. Boyle’s would have to agree =
to it.
Attorney Wright said the Board could ask for a vegetative buffer of 100 fee=
t,
if they try to sell the property as a stand alone they could not be able to
access the property.
Randy
asked the Board members to look at the zoning map in their code books. He stated that this currently publ=
ished
zoning map accurately reflects the language of the meets and bounds descrip=
tion
in the zoning code. There was an error in 2000 on the zoning map that put t=
he
mercantile zone too far north. He
said that what Mr. Peterson is asking for is the removal of some of the
mercantile zone that is immediately in front of his house. Randy said that it would not be
productive to try to prove that an error occurred and correct it. It would be easier to change the z=
oning.
Mr. Peterson would like to put a buffer along the frontage of the mercantile
zone to preserve the residential feel of the property.
Atto=
rney
Wright said that Randy needs to go up there and make sure they are not
utilizing the property outside of their site plan. Randy said if the Board would like=
he
could ask Boyles if they would be agreeable to a written buffer. Mr. Wright
said that they are trying to make a smoother transition between commercial =
and
residential in the comprehensive plan. This problem is throughout the Town.=
Mr.
Peterson stated that maybe they should wait until Boyles has something of
interest. Randy said he would=
go and
take a look to see if Boyles is using the land appropriately. Boyle’s=
has
put some of their trucks behind the trees but they asked the Petersons befo=
re
they did that.
The
Petersons said they will just wait on the rezoning for the time being.
Motion made by Steve Peterson,
seconded by Fred Santucci to adjourn the meeting at 8:02 PM.
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Ayes – 6 =
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Noes – 0 =
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Absent – 1
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______________________________
Vale=
rie
Pierce, Secretary
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(11/18/09)
– Regular Planning Board Minutes cont.